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::Carrier Construction IV-- Seems a bit much when the EU only has Carrier III[[user:sixmarks|Five]] -- One would think so, but PACT has Carrier VI - also, the EU applications aren't up to date- look at the terminology used for armor purchases- they're at least a couple iterations behind. So we can't really trust it for a guideline. I suppose that's why Shrike said to use PACT as a guideline. [[user:Kerrus|Kerrus]]
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::Carrier Construction IV-- Seems a bit much when the EU only has Carrier III[[user:sixmarks|Five]] -- One would think so, but PACT has Carrier VI - also, the EU applications aren't up to date- look at the terminology used for armor purchases- they're at least a couple iterations behind. So we can't really trust it for a guideline. I suppose that's why Shrike said to use PACT as a guideline. [[user:Kerrus|Kerrus]]- PACT has always had a carrier focus, so it stands to reason that they have Carrier VI. Though I suppose it doesn't hurt to give the indies IV [[user:sixmarks|Five]]
 
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:Improved Laminations -- Seems a bit much, given how Improved Laminations is Materials TL 30[[user:sixmarks|Five]] -- Well, the thing is I was basing starting apps on the previous starting apps, scaling down. With the elimination of a lot of single specific app types, I found that every *single* sub-class was gaining Improved Lamination- so rather than have it down a bunch of times, it should just be standard. [[user:Kerrus|Kerrus]]
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:Improved Laminations -- Seems a bit much, given how Improved Laminations is Materials TL 30[[user:sixmarks|Five]] -- Well, the thing is I was basing starting apps on the previous starting apps, scaling down. With the elimination of a lot of single specific app types, I found that every *single* sub-class was gaining Improved Lamination- so rather than have it down a bunch of times, it should just be standard. [[user:Kerrus|Kerrus]]Yes, but why give them this when no-one else starts with it? [[user:sixmarks|Five]]
 
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:Cloaking Device-- Should really be standard [[user:sixmarks|Five]] -- It's cheap enough to grab with apps or research early- standard is passive stealth. Given how indies diversify I needed to make Stealth Fuckery roughly on par with the other options. [[user:Kerrus|Kerrus]]
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:Cloaking Device-- Should really be standard [[user:sixmarks|Five]] -- It's cheap enough to grab with apps or research early- standard is passive stealth. Given how indies diversify I needed to make Stealth Fuckery roughly on par with the other options. [[user:Kerrus|Kerrus]] - so far, everyone starts with a Cloaking Device, except maybe the league. Seems a bit silly to only let Stealth focused indies get it for free [[user:sixmarks|Five]]
 
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Latest revision as of 09:17, 6 August 2011

Preliminary Indie application proposal Indie Starting Applications

Shipbuilding IV
Capital Ship Construction
Carrier Construction IV-- Seems a bit much when the EU only has Carrier IIIFive -- One would think so, but PACT has Carrier VI - also, the EU applications aren't up to date- look at the terminology used for armor purchases- they're at least a couple iterations behind. So we can't really trust it for a guideline. I suppose that's why Shrike said to use PACT as a guideline. Kerrus- PACT has always had a carrier focus, so it stands to reason that they have Carrier VI. Though I suppose it doesn't hurt to give the indies IV Five
Aerospace Construction II
Mecha Construction II
Ground Construction II
Craft Power II
Ship Power IV
All Tier 1 Railgun Applications
All Tier 1 Particle Weapon Applications
Naval Armor II
Aerospace Armor II
Ground Armor II
Basic Armor Formulations
Basic Laminations
Improved Laminations -- Seems a bit much, given how Improved Laminations is Materials TL 30Five -- Well, the thing is I was basing starting apps on the previous starting apps, scaling down. With the elimination of a lot of single specific app types, I found that every *single* sub-class was gaining Improved Lamination- so rather than have it down a bunch of times, it should just be standard. KerrusYes, but why give them this when no-one else starts with it? Five
Naval Shields I
Aerospace Shields I
Early + Standard Scattering Field
Flash Field
Naval Propulsion II
Aerospace Propulsion II
Open-Cycle Fusion Drives
Agile Electronics
Swarm Formatting
Modern RAM
Chameleon Fabric


Ground Focus

Ground Construction III
Ground Armor III
Rhenium Fundamentals
Iridium Forging
Land Battleship Construction III (Is this really an app?)


Warship Focus

Shipbuilding V
Capital Ship Construction
Carrier Construction V -- Should probably go to air focus Five -- Point. Kerrus
Ship Power V
Rhenium [i]or[/i] Synchronous Fundamentals
Adaptive Scattering Field
Forced-Cycle Fusion Drives

Air Focus

Aerospace Construction III
Mecha Construction III
Aerospace Propulsion III
Aerospace Shields II -- Seems a bit much with not even PACT starting with this. Five -- Indies always got Aerospace Shields II Kerrus
Carrierized II (+10%)


Supertech Bullshit

Iridium Forging
Mercurion Drives
Theta Jump Drives
Mega Particle Fundamentals Or Mercurion Rail Fundamentals
T-Forced Fusion I (Cells and Plants)
Naval Shields II-- Seems a bit much Five -- Similarly, Supertech Bullshit always got Naval Shields II Kerrus
Aerospace Shields II
Cloaking Device


Hypertech Bullship

Crude Omega Conversion
Omega Jump Drives
Fold Drive
Assymetrical Metric Compression Drives
Metric Compression I (Cells and Plants)
Q-Pulse Guns
Valence Armor


Stealth Fuckery

Cloaking Device-- Should really be standard Five -- It's cheap enough to grab with apps or research early- standard is passive stealth. Given how indies diversify I needed to make Stealth Fuckery roughly on par with the other options. Kerrus - so far, everyone starts with a Cloaking Device, except maybe the league. Seems a bit silly to only let Stealth focused indies get it for free Five
Shimmershields
Adaptive RAM
Adaptive Chameleon Fabric
Advanced Observation Software
Aerospace Construction III (AWACS!)