Talk:Battles of the ZOCU War (old) - Revision history

Exhack at 18:34, 12 June 2011

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	:Main points of conflict were the Esperanca-Malvinas-Che Corridor, the Ophen-Oriole-Marin Corridor, and the Kanon-Otome-tensai Corridor . --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Main points of conflict were the Esperanca-Malvinas-Che Corridor, the Ophen-Oriole-Marin Corridor, and the Kanon-Otome-tensai Corridor . --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Valera entered hostilities with Liberacion, Che, and Malvinas in response to attacks on her merchant shipping. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Valera entered hostilities with Liberacion, Che, and Malvinas in response to attacks on her merchant shipping. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
			:ASEAN is far removed from the conflicts, based on the placement of its colonies. Given that none of its big players (and especially not Indonesia) in the PACT lost colonies, they might end up being the dove faction by default. Beyond adventurism, they have no reason to retake the colonies that Japan, America and UNASUR couldn't keep a leash on. --[[User:Exhack\|Exhack]] 11:34, 12 June 2011 (PDT)
			:Indonesian adventurism and Australia's longtime support of American military coalitions might however drive their particular colonies to nominally support PACT campaigns. --[[User:Exhack\|Exhack]] 11:34, 12 June 2011 (PDT)
			:As a center for research with a relatively unhardened populace, Oceania is a likely target for terrorism. Invasions are logistically difficult and mishaps result in major atrocities. It's also surrounded by friendly colonies. Nobody wants to deal with that (except for the Libs, who don't give a fuck). --[[User:Exhack\|Exhack]] 11:34, 12 June 2011 (PDT)

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	:SIYAN supported the KCM's push towards Tensai in small numbers. The Erebus-Rapture-Furukawa-Nova Angelese Corridor is mostly low-key during the fighting--[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:SIYAN supported the KCM's push towards Tensai in small numbers. The Erebus-Rapture-Furukawa-Nova Angelese Corridor is mostly low-key during the fighting--[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:ZCM Pacific Forces, based mainly at Ophen & Choson, pushed up towards Marin --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:ZCM Pacific Forces, based mainly at Ophen & Choson, pushed up towards Marin --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
			:Oceania likely involved in domestic affairs and commerce protection. Expect Corrigedor to be the same, given both economies are dependent on the financial well-being of the bloc. --[[User:Exhack\|Exhack]] 11:34, 12 June 2011 (PDT)

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	:Earth Military Forces use fleets composed mostly of Supercarriers, System Control Ships, and Battleships, which can be afforded in large numbers with their superior industry and economies. PAC-AM, with much less industry and money to work with, begins to use smaller, more cost efficient designs such as the BLANK and BLANK. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Earth Military Forces use fleets composed mostly of Supercarriers, System Control Ships, and Battleships, which can be afforded in large numbers with their superior industry and economies. PAC-AM, with much less industry and money to work with, begins to use smaller, more cost efficient designs such as the BLANK and BLANK. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Valeran military forces were gifted reasonable numbers of PAC-AM combat equipment following their entry into the war. Or maybe they were given the licence early in the war and produced some stuff. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Valeran military forces were gifted reasonable numbers of PAC-AM combat equipment following their entry into the war. Or maybe they were given the licence early in the war and produced some stuff. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
			:Oceania makes use of zero-gravity UAVs and transforming aerospace units. Because building tanks AND fighters is logistically draining, they have to make use of combat platforms that can do both somewhat efficiently. Designs based machines used by Indonesian forces for Orbital Elevator defense and built by regional contractors operated by a native Indonesian corporation pre-breakdown. --[[User:Exhack\|Exhack]] 11:34, 12 June 2011 (PDT)
			:ASEAN imports arms. Australia is the world's number 1 arms importer in the current era, and it's likely little has changed. Indonesia has some native corporations, and it's very likely that their design ethic has been influenced by the need to protect the orbital elevator from the Chinese. Outside of those two local fabber operators pay expensive DRM fees to manufacture American and Japanese units. Expect jailbreaking to be a major economic issue in the Breakdown era, where manufacturers HAD to use illegally obtained blueprints to produce parts and survive. --[[User:Exhack\|Exhack]] 11:34, 12 June 2011 (PDT)

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	:Battle of Tensai: ZOCU forces attempt to destroy Tensai's fleet to force the Core to negotiate. Becomes an early victory for PACT forces, partly because of the deployment of Combat Frames among colonial forces in earlier years along with the earlier embarrassment over Kanon prevents PAC-AM leaders from underestimating ZOCU aerospace. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Battle of Tensai: ZOCU forces attempt to destroy Tensai's fleet to force the Core to negotiate. Becomes an early victory for PACT forces, partly because of the deployment of Combat Frames among colonial forces in earlier years along with the earlier embarrassment over Kanon prevents PAC-AM leaders from underestimating ZOCU aerospace. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Battle of Malvinas: UNASUR fleet jumps into system to support the planet against attacking forces. Fleet is ambushed and cut to pieces by the combined military force of Liberacion, Che, and the Pro-Libertador Malvinans. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Battle of Malvinas: UNASUR fleet jumps into system to support the planet against attacking forces. Fleet is ambushed and cut to pieces by the combined military force of Liberacion, Che, and the Pro-Libertador Malvinans. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
			:It'd be totally boss if someone invaded an Oceanian hab and made a crisis situation of it. Probably a crack team of commandos sent in to disrupt one of the major research groups, with minimal atrocity factor. --[[User:Exhack\|Exhack]] 11:34, 12 June 2011 (PDT)

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	====Who Fought(ZOCU+Allies)====		====Who Fought(ZOCU+Allies)====
	:~~Kanonese Heavenly~~ Militia forces were mainly involved in the Kanon-Otome-Tensai Corridor --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Kanonian Celestial Militia forces were mainly involved in the Kanon-Otome-Tensai Corridor --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Liberacion & Che's early offensive managed to easily conquer, with the help of pro-Libertador fifth columnists within the government, the planet Malvinas early in the war. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Liberacion & Che's early offensive managed to easily conquer, with the help of pro-Libertador fifth columnists within the government, the planet Malvinas early in the war. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:SIYAN supported the ~~KHM~~'s push towards Tensai in small numbers. The Erebus-Rapture-Furukawa-Nova Angelese Corridor is mostly low-key during the fighting--[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:SIYAN supported the KCM's push towards Tensai in small numbers. The Erebus-Rapture-Furukawa-Nova Angelese Corridor is mostly low-key during the fighting--[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:ZCM Pacific Forces, based mainly at Ophen & Choson, pushed up towards Marin --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:ZCM Pacific Forces, based mainly at Ophen & Choson, pushed up towards Marin --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]

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	====Major Battles & Campaigns====		====Major Battles & Campaigns====
	:Battle of Kanon & the ~~Kanonese~~ Campaign: Same as it was before, just with less Americans. Japanese and Korean fleets suffer heavy losses in the end. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Battle of Kanon & the Kanonian Campaign: Same as it was before, just with less Americans. Japanese and Korean fleets suffer heavy losses in the end. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Battle of Tensai: ZOCU forces attempt to destroy Tensai's fleet to force the Core to negotiate. Becomes an early victory for PACT forces, partly because of the deployment of Combat Frames among colonial forces in earlier years along with the earlier embarrassment over Kanon prevents PAC-AM leaders from underestimating ZOCU aerospace. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Battle of Tensai: ZOCU forces attempt to destroy Tensai's fleet to force the Core to negotiate. Becomes an early victory for PACT forces, partly because of the deployment of Combat Frames among colonial forces in earlier years along with the earlier embarrassment over Kanon prevents PAC-AM leaders from underestimating ZOCU aerospace. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Battle of Malvinas: UNASUR fleet jumps into system to support the planet against attacking forces. Fleet is ambushed and cut to pieces by the combined military force of Liberacion, Che, and the Pro-Libertador Malvinans. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Battle of Malvinas: UNASUR fleet jumps into system to support the planet against attacking forces. Fleet is ambushed and cut to pieces by the combined military force of Liberacion, Che, and the Pro-Libertador Malvinans. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]

Sixmarks: /* Major Battles & Campaigns */

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Major Battles & Campaigns

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	====Major Battles & Campaigns====		====Major Battles & Campaigns====
	:Battle of Kanon & the Kanonese Campaign: Same as it was before, just with less Americans. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Battle of Kanon & the Kanonese Campaign: Same as it was before, just with less Americans. Japanese and Korean fleets suffer heavy losses in the end. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Battle of Tensai~~? ZCM+SIYAN~~ forces attempt to destroy Tensai's~~(Possibly other colonial's)~~ fleet to force the Core to negotiate. Becomes an early victory for PACT forces, partly because of the deployment of Combat Frames among colonial ~~(Tensai,Oceania, Esperancan, Corregidoran?)~~ forces in earlier years prevents ~~PACAM~~ leaders from underestimating ZOCU aerospace. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Battle of Tensai: ZOCU forces attempt to destroy Tensai's fleet to force the Core to negotiate. Becomes an early victory for PACT forces, partly because of the deployment of Combat Frames among colonial forces in earlier years along with the earlier embarrassment over Kanon prevents PAC-AM leaders from underestimating ZOCU aerospace. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
			:Battle of Malvinas: UNASUR fleet jumps into system to support the planet against attacking forces. Fleet is ambushed and cut to pieces by the combined military force of Liberacion, Che, and the Pro-Libertador Malvinans. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]

Sixmarks: /* Where did shit go down? */

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Where did shit go down?

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	====Where did shit go down?====		====Where did shit go down?====
	:~~Main theaters in the early war were Kanon (ZCM Versus Japan and Korea~~?~~) and on UNASUR Worlds (Guevara+Other Libs fighting stationed UNASUR forces~~?~~) --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]~~		:????
	~~:Japanese+Korean forces overextend themselves at Kanon. Much of the slack is taken up by Tensai and other colonies. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]~~
	:Libertador forces land on Esperanca and Guernica, Guernica falls easily whilst the fightng on Esperanca bogs down with the libs only being pushed off near the end of the war. Libertador forces also attempt to "Liberate" ASEAN planets, possibly engage Valeran forces. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	~~:Small Scale naval engagements with PACT forces attempting to prevent the trade of technology and weapons between ZOCU-SIYAN and the Libertadors. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]~~

	====Major Battles & Campaigns====		====Major Battles & Campaigns====
	:Battle of Kanon & the Kanonese Campaign: Same as it was before, just with less Americans. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Battle of Kanon & the Kanonese Campaign: Same as it was before, just with less Americans. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Battle of Tensai? ZCM+SIYAN forces attempt to destroy Tensai's(Possibly other colonial's) fleet to force the Core to negotiate. Becomes an early victory for PACT forces, partly because of the deployment of Combat Frames among colonial (Tensai,Oceania, Esperancan, Corregidoran?) forces in earlier years prevents PACAM leaders from underestimating ZOCU aerospace. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Battle of Tensai? ZCM+SIYAN forces attempt to destroy Tensai's(Possibly other colonial's) fleet to force the Core to negotiate. Becomes an early victory for PACT forces, partly because of the deployment of Combat Frames among colonial (Tensai,Oceania, Esperancan, Corregidoran?) forces in earlier years prevents PACAM leaders from underestimating ZOCU aerospace. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]

Sixmarks: /* Basic Equipment and stuff (Core) */

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Basic Equipment and stuff (Core)

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	====Basic Equipment and stuff (Core)====		====Basic Equipment and stuff (Core)====
	:Korea+Japan used mainly a mixture of Earth-Origin equipment in the early war, much of it pre-breakdown. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Korea+Japan used mainly a mixture of Earth-Origin equipment in the early war, much of it pre-breakdown. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:PAC-AM ~~Forces used~~ a ~~mixture~~ of ~~earth-origin~~ equipment ~~(Mac's~~, ~~Mustangs)~~ and ~~native designs~~. ~~Tensai, Esperanca~~, and ~~Oceania early PAC~~-~~AM adopters of Combat Frame technology.~~ --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Initial PAC-AM equipment a combination of indigenous designs and American/Brazilian/Japanese/other equipment. In the push for a degree of self reliance and standardization, modern indigenous equipment and licence built earth-craft begin to replace older kit. Standardized indigenous&earth craft become the mainstay of PAC-AM aerospace forces, with the CF-86 Puma and F-87 Hellcat becoming widely produced and spread, seeing use even with independent forces --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Earth Military Forces use fleets composed mostly of Supercarriers and large ~~Battleships(Lincolns~~ and ~~Macs and others)~~. PAC-AM, with less ~~of an industrial base~~, ~~uses~~ smaller ~~light-carriers and fleet-carriers~~, as ~~well as smaller Cruiser-weight~~ and ~~lower combatants~~. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Earth Military Forces use fleets composed mostly of Supercarriers, System Control Ships, and Battleships, which can be afforded in large numbers with their superior industry and economies. PAC-AM, with much less industry and money to work with, begins to use smaller, more cost efficient designs such as the BLANK and BLANK. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:~~Valera used PACT~~-~~Surplus designs? --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]~~		:Valeran military forces were gifted reasonable numbers of PAC-AM combat equipment following their entry into the war. Or maybe they were given the licence early in the war and produced some stuff. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	~~:Stealth, Bitches~~. ~~We got it~~. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]

	====Basic Equipment and stuff (ZOCU&Friends)====		====Basic Equipment and stuff (ZOCU&Friends)====

Sixmarks: /* Who Fought(Core+Allies) */

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Who Fought(Core+Allies)

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	:In order to pool resources, the major colonies(Nova Angeles, Colbert, Nuevo Colombia, Corregidor, Esperanca, Forward, Guadalupe, Jefferson, Marin, Oceania, Peron, and Tensai) sign the so called "Dozen Powers Treaty", organizing the Pacific Arm Colonial Allied Military Force, or PAC-AM for short. A regional treaty organization in the vein of NATO or SEATO, PAC-AM's joint command staff located at a heavily defended military bunker on Corregidor handled high-level operations, leaving command of local forces to their local militaries. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:In order to pool resources, the major colonies(Nova Angeles, Colbert, Nuevo Colombia, Corregidor, Esperanca, Forward, Guadalupe, Jefferson, Marin, Oceania, Peron, and Tensai) sign the so called "Dozen Powers Treaty", organizing the Pacific Arm Colonial Allied Military Force, or PAC-AM for short. A regional treaty organization in the vein of NATO or SEATO, PAC-AM's joint command staff located at a heavily defended military bunker on Corregidor handled high-level operations, leaving command of local forces to their local militaries. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Main points of conflict were the Esperanca-Malvinas-Che Corridor, the Ophen-Oriole-Marin Corridor, and the Kanon-Otome-tensai Corridor . --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Main points of conflict were the Esperanca-Malvinas-Che Corridor, the Ophen-Oriole-Marin Corridor, and the Kanon-Otome-tensai Corridor . --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
			:Valera entered hostilities with Liberacion, Che, and Malvinas in response to attacks on her merchant shipping. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]

	====Who Fought(ZOCU+Allies)====		====Who Fought(ZOCU+Allies)====

Sixmarks: /* Who Fought(Core) */

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Who Fought(Core)

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	==== Who Fought(Core)====		==== Who Fought(Core+Allies)====
	:Initially Korea and Japan, ~~with~~ the ~~Colonial~~ nations ~~picking up~~ the ~~slack after Kanon~~? --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Initially, Korea and Japan(For the western front) and UNASUR(Libertadors) were the main combatants during the war. Heavy losses at Kanon, Otome, and Malvinas force the colonial nations to handle most of the fighting? --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:~~UNASUR was mainly focused on fighting~~ the ~~Libertadors~~. --~~[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]~~		:In order to pool resources, the major colonies(Nova Angeles, Colbert, Nuevo Colombia, Corregidor, Esperanca, Forward, Guadalupe, Jefferson, Marin, Oceania, Peron, and Tensai) sign the so called "Dozen Powers Treaty", organizing the Pacific Arm Colonial Allied Military Force, or PAC-AM for short. A regional treaty organization in the vein of NATO or SEATO, PAC-AM's joint command staff located at a heavily defended military bunker on Corregidor handled high-level operations, leaving command of local forces to their local militaries. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	~~:Tensai was one~~ of ~~the main contenders against ZOCU~~. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Main points of conflict were the Esperanca-Malvinas-Che Corridor, the Ophen-Oriole-Marin Corridor, and the Kanon-Otome-tensai Corridor . --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:~~Did Corregidor and Oceania participate?~~ --~~[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]~~
	~~:Possibly refer to~~ the ~~PACT Colonial Military forces as something like PAC~~-AM, ~~for Pacific Arm Colony~~-~~Allied Military?~~ --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]

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Sixmarks: /* Who Fought(ZOCU+Allies) */

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Who Fought(ZOCU+Allies)

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	====Who Fought(ZOCU+Allies)====		====Who Fought(ZOCU+Allies)====
	:Kanon? --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Kanonese Heavenly Militia forces were mainly involved in the Kanon-Otome-Tensai Corridor --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:~~The Libertadors were on~~ the ~~offensive for much~~ of the early ~~stages of~~ the war? --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Liberacion & Che's early offensive managed to easily conquer, with the help of pro-Libertador fifth columnists within the government, the planet Malvinas early in the war. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:SIYAN supported ~~ZOCU operations~~ --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:SIYAN supported the KHM's push towards Tensai in small numbers. The Erebus-Rapture-Furukawa-Nova Angelese Corridor is mostly low-key during the fighting--[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:~~ZOCU landings on Theia(?)~~, ~~Libertador landings on Van Lang to support Separatists(?)~~ --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:ZCM Pacific Forces, based mainly at Ophen & Choson, pushed up towards Marin --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]

	====Basic Equipment and stuff (Core)====		====Basic Equipment and stuff (Core)====

Sixmarks at 17:45, 8 June 2011

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Pacific Arm Basics

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 ====Where did shit go down?====

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	:Main points of conflict were the Esperanca-Malvinas-Che Corridor, the Ophen-Oriole-Marin Corridor, and the Kanon-Otome-tensai Corridor . --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Main points of conflict were the Esperanca-Malvinas-Che Corridor, the Ophen-Oriole-Marin Corridor, and the Kanon-Otome-tensai Corridor . --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Valera entered hostilities with Liberacion, Che, and Malvinas in response to attacks on her merchant shipping. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Valera entered hostilities with Liberacion, Che, and Malvinas in response to attacks on her merchant shipping. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
			:ASEAN is far removed from the conflicts, based on the placement of its colonies. Given that none of its big players (and especially not Indonesia) in the PACT lost colonies, they might end up being the dove faction by default. Beyond adventurism, they have no reason to retake the colonies that Japan, America and UNASUR couldn't keep a leash on. --[[User:Exhack\|Exhack]] 11:34, 12 June 2011 (PDT)
			:Indonesian adventurism and Australia's longtime support of American military coalitions might however drive their particular colonies to nominally support PACT campaigns. --[[User:Exhack\|Exhack]] 11:34, 12 June 2011 (PDT)
			:As a center for research with a relatively unhardened populace, Oceania is a likely target for terrorism. Invasions are logistically difficult and mishaps result in major atrocities. It's also surrounded by friendly colonies. Nobody wants to deal with that (except for the Libs, who don't give a fuck). --[[User:Exhack\|Exhack]] 11:34, 12 June 2011 (PDT)

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	:SIYAN supported the KCM's push towards Tensai in small numbers. The Erebus-Rapture-Furukawa-Nova Angelese Corridor is mostly low-key during the fighting--[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:SIYAN supported the KCM's push towards Tensai in small numbers. The Erebus-Rapture-Furukawa-Nova Angelese Corridor is mostly low-key during the fighting--[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:ZCM Pacific Forces, based mainly at Ophen & Choson, pushed up towards Marin --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:ZCM Pacific Forces, based mainly at Ophen & Choson, pushed up towards Marin --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
			:Oceania likely involved in domestic affairs and commerce protection. Expect Corrigedor to be the same, given both economies are dependent on the financial well-being of the bloc. --[[User:Exhack\|Exhack]] 11:34, 12 June 2011 (PDT)

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	:Earth Military Forces use fleets composed mostly of Supercarriers, System Control Ships, and Battleships, which can be afforded in large numbers with their superior industry and economies. PAC-AM, with much less industry and money to work with, begins to use smaller, more cost efficient designs such as the BLANK and BLANK. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Earth Military Forces use fleets composed mostly of Supercarriers, System Control Ships, and Battleships, which can be afforded in large numbers with their superior industry and economies. PAC-AM, with much less industry and money to work with, begins to use smaller, more cost efficient designs such as the BLANK and BLANK. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Valeran military forces were gifted reasonable numbers of PAC-AM combat equipment following their entry into the war. Or maybe they were given the licence early in the war and produced some stuff. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Valeran military forces were gifted reasonable numbers of PAC-AM combat equipment following their entry into the war. Or maybe they were given the licence early in the war and produced some stuff. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
			:Oceania makes use of zero-gravity UAVs and transforming aerospace units. Because building tanks AND fighters is logistically draining, they have to make use of combat platforms that can do both somewhat efficiently. Designs based machines used by Indonesian forces for Orbital Elevator defense and built by regional contractors operated by a native Indonesian corporation pre-breakdown. --[[User:Exhack\|Exhack]] 11:34, 12 June 2011 (PDT)
			:ASEAN imports arms. Australia is the world's number 1 arms importer in the current era, and it's likely little has changed. Indonesia has some native corporations, and it's very likely that their design ethic has been influenced by the need to protect the orbital elevator from the Chinese. Outside of those two local fabber operators pay expensive DRM fees to manufacture American and Japanese units. Expect jailbreaking to be a major economic issue in the Breakdown era, where manufacturers HAD to use illegally obtained blueprints to produce parts and survive. --[[User:Exhack\|Exhack]] 11:34, 12 June 2011 (PDT)

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	:Battle of Tensai: ZOCU forces attempt to destroy Tensai's fleet to force the Core to negotiate. Becomes an early victory for PACT forces, partly because of the deployment of Combat Frames among colonial forces in earlier years along with the earlier embarrassment over Kanon prevents PAC-AM leaders from underestimating ZOCU aerospace. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Battle of Tensai: ZOCU forces attempt to destroy Tensai's fleet to force the Core to negotiate. Becomes an early victory for PACT forces, partly because of the deployment of Combat Frames among colonial forces in earlier years along with the earlier embarrassment over Kanon prevents PAC-AM leaders from underestimating ZOCU aerospace. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Battle of Malvinas: UNASUR fleet jumps into system to support the planet against attacking forces. Fleet is ambushed and cut to pieces by the combined military force of Liberacion, Che, and the Pro-Libertador Malvinans. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Battle of Malvinas: UNASUR fleet jumps into system to support the planet against attacking forces. Fleet is ambushed and cut to pieces by the combined military force of Liberacion, Che, and the Pro-Libertador Malvinans. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
			:It'd be totally boss if someone invaded an Oceanian hab and made a crisis situation of it. Probably a crack team of commandos sent in to disrupt one of the major research groups, with minimal atrocity factor. --[[User:Exhack\|Exhack]] 11:34, 12 June 2011 (PDT)

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	====Who Fought(ZOCU+Allies)====		====Who Fought(ZOCU+Allies)====
	:~~Kanonese Heavenly~~ Militia forces were mainly involved in the Kanon-Otome-Tensai Corridor --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Kanonian Celestial Militia forces were mainly involved in the Kanon-Otome-Tensai Corridor --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Liberacion & Che's early offensive managed to easily conquer, with the help of pro-Libertador fifth columnists within the government, the planet Malvinas early in the war. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Liberacion & Che's early offensive managed to easily conquer, with the help of pro-Libertador fifth columnists within the government, the planet Malvinas early in the war. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:SIYAN supported the ~~KHM~~'s push towards Tensai in small numbers. The Erebus-Rapture-Furukawa-Nova Angelese Corridor is mostly low-key during the fighting--[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:SIYAN supported the KCM's push towards Tensai in small numbers. The Erebus-Rapture-Furukawa-Nova Angelese Corridor is mostly low-key during the fighting--[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:ZCM Pacific Forces, based mainly at Ophen & Choson, pushed up towards Marin --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:ZCM Pacific Forces, based mainly at Ophen & Choson, pushed up towards Marin --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]

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	====Major Battles & Campaigns====		====Major Battles & Campaigns====
	:Battle of Kanon & the ~~Kanonese~~ Campaign: Same as it was before, just with less Americans. Japanese and Korean fleets suffer heavy losses in the end. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Battle of Kanon & the Kanonian Campaign: Same as it was before, just with less Americans. Japanese and Korean fleets suffer heavy losses in the end. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Battle of Tensai: ZOCU forces attempt to destroy Tensai's fleet to force the Core to negotiate. Becomes an early victory for PACT forces, partly because of the deployment of Combat Frames among colonial forces in earlier years along with the earlier embarrassment over Kanon prevents PAC-AM leaders from underestimating ZOCU aerospace. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Battle of Tensai: ZOCU forces attempt to destroy Tensai's fleet to force the Core to negotiate. Becomes an early victory for PACT forces, partly because of the deployment of Combat Frames among colonial forces in earlier years along with the earlier embarrassment over Kanon prevents PAC-AM leaders from underestimating ZOCU aerospace. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Battle of Malvinas: UNASUR fleet jumps into system to support the planet against attacking forces. Fleet is ambushed and cut to pieces by the combined military force of Liberacion, Che, and the Pro-Libertador Malvinans. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Battle of Malvinas: UNASUR fleet jumps into system to support the planet against attacking forces. Fleet is ambushed and cut to pieces by the combined military force of Liberacion, Che, and the Pro-Libertador Malvinans. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]

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	====Basic Equipment and stuff (Core)====		====Basic Equipment and stuff (Core)====
	:Korea+Japan used mainly a mixture of Earth-Origin equipment in the early war, much of it pre-breakdown. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Korea+Japan used mainly a mixture of Earth-Origin equipment in the early war, much of it pre-breakdown. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:PAC-AM ~~Forces used~~ a ~~mixture~~ of ~~earth-origin~~ equipment ~~(Mac's~~, ~~Mustangs)~~ and ~~native designs~~. ~~Tensai, Esperanca~~, and ~~Oceania early PAC~~-~~AM adopters of Combat Frame technology.~~ --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Initial PAC-AM equipment a combination of indigenous designs and American/Brazilian/Japanese/other equipment. In the push for a degree of self reliance and standardization, modern indigenous equipment and licence built earth-craft begin to replace older kit. Standardized indigenous&earth craft become the mainstay of PAC-AM aerospace forces, with the CF-86 Puma and F-87 Hellcat becoming widely produced and spread, seeing use even with independent forces --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Earth Military Forces use fleets composed mostly of Supercarriers and large ~~Battleships(Lincolns~~ and ~~Macs and others)~~. PAC-AM, with less ~~of an industrial base~~, ~~uses~~ smaller ~~light-carriers and fleet-carriers~~, as ~~well as smaller Cruiser-weight~~ and ~~lower combatants~~. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]		:Earth Military Forces use fleets composed mostly of Supercarriers, System Control Ships, and Battleships, which can be afforded in large numbers with their superior industry and economies. PAC-AM, with much less industry and money to work with, begins to use smaller, more cost efficient designs such as the BLANK and BLANK. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:~~Valera used PACT~~-~~Surplus designs? --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]~~		:Valeran military forces were gifted reasonable numbers of PAC-AM combat equipment following their entry into the war. Or maybe they were given the licence early in the war and produced some stuff. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	~~:Stealth, Bitches~~. ~~We got it~~. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]

	====Basic Equipment and stuff (ZOCU&Friends)====		====Basic Equipment and stuff (ZOCU&Friends)====

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	==== Who Fought(Core)====		==== Who Fought(Core)====
	:Initially Korea and Japan, with the Colonial nations picking up the slack after Kanon?		:Initially Korea and Japan, with the Colonial nations picking up the slack after Kanon? --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:UNASUR was mainly focused on fighting the Libertadors.		:UNASUR was mainly focused on fighting the Libertadors. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Tensai was one of the main contenders against ZOCU.		:Tensai was one of the main contenders against ZOCU. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Did Corregidor and Oceania participate?		:Did Corregidor and Oceania participate? --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Possibly refer to the PACT Colonial Military forces as something like PAC-AM, for Pacific Arm Colony-Allied Military?		:Possibly refer to the PACT Colonial Military forces as something like PAC-AM, for Pacific Arm Colony-Allied Military? --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]

	====Who Fought(ZOCU+Allies)====		====Who Fought(ZOCU+Allies)====
	:Kanon?		:Kanon? --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:The Libertadors were on the offensive for much of the early stages of the war?		:The Libertadors were on the offensive for much of the early stages of the war? --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:SIYAN supported ZOCU operations		:SIYAN supported ZOCU operations --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:ZOCU landings on Theia(?), Libertador landings on Van Lang to support Separatists(?)		:ZOCU landings on Theia(?), Libertador landings on Van Lang to support Separatists(?) --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]

	====Basic Equipment and stuff (Core)====		====Basic Equipment and stuff (Core)====
	:Korea+Japan used mainly a mixture of Earth-Origin equipment in the early war, much of it pre-breakdown.		:Korea+Japan used mainly a mixture of Earth-Origin equipment in the early war, much of it pre-breakdown. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:PAC-AM Forces used a mixture of earth-origin equipment (Mac's, Mustangs) and native designs. Tensai, Esperanca, and Oceania early PAC-AM adopters of Combat Frame technology.		:PAC-AM Forces used a mixture of earth-origin equipment (Mac's, Mustangs) and native designs. Tensai, Esperanca, and Oceania early PAC-AM adopters of Combat Frame technology. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Earth Military Forces use fleets composed mostly of Supercarriers and large Battleships(Lincolns and Macs and others). PAC-AM, with less of an industrial base, uses smaller light-carriers and fleet-carriers, as well as smaller Cruiser-weight and lower combatants.		:Earth Military Forces use fleets composed mostly of Supercarriers and large Battleships(Lincolns and Macs and others). PAC-AM, with less of an industrial base, uses smaller light-carriers and fleet-carriers, as well as smaller Cruiser-weight and lower combatants. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Valera used PACT-Surplus designs?		:Valera used PACT-Surplus designs? --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Stealth, Bitches. We got it.		:Stealth, Bitches. We got it. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]

	====Basic Equipment and stuff (ZOCU&Friends)====		====Basic Equipment and stuff (ZOCU&Friends)====
	:Theotech		:Theotech --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Somewhat more core-styled gear from the Libs, with heavy use of railguns?		:Somewhat more core-styled gear from the Libs, with heavy use of railguns? --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]

	====Where did shit go down?====		====Where did shit go down?====
	:Main theaters in the early war were Kanon (ZCM Versus Japan and Korea?) and on UNASUR Worlds (Guevara+Other Libs fighting stationed UNASUR forces?)		:Main theaters in the early war were Kanon (ZCM Versus Japan and Korea?) and on UNASUR Worlds (Guevara+Other Libs fighting stationed UNASUR forces?) --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Japanese+Korean forces overextend themselves at Kanon. Much of the slack is taken up by Tensai and other colonies.		:Japanese+Korean forces overextend themselves at Kanon. Much of the slack is taken up by Tensai and other colonies. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Libertador forces land on Esperanca and Guernica, Guernica falls easily whilst the fightng on Esperanca bogs down with the libs only being pushed off near the end of the war. Libertador forces also attempt to "Liberate" ASEAN planets, possibly engage Valeran forces.		:Libertador forces land on Esperanca and Guernica, Guernica falls easily whilst the fightng on Esperanca bogs down with the libs only being pushed off near the end of the war. Libertador forces also attempt to "Liberate" ASEAN planets, possibly engage Valeran forces. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Small Scale naval engagements with PACT forces attempting to prevent the trade of technology and weapons between ZOCU-SIYAN and the Libertadors.		:Small Scale naval engagements with PACT forces attempting to prevent the trade of technology and weapons between ZOCU-SIYAN and the Libertadors. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]

	====Major Battles & Campaigns====		====Major Battles & Campaigns====
	:Battle of Kanon & the Kanonese Campaign: Same as it was before, just with less Americans.		:Battle of Kanon & the Kanonese Campaign: Same as it was before, just with less Americans. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]
	:Battle of Tensai? ZCM+SIYAN forces attempt to destroy Tensai's(Possibly other colonial's) fleet to force the Core to negotiate. Becomes an early victory for PACT forces, partly because of the deployment of Combat Frames among colonial (Tensai,Oceania, Esperancan, Corregidoran?) forces in earlier years prevents PACAM leaders from underestimating ZOCU aerospace.		:Battle of Tensai? ZCM+SIYAN forces attempt to destroy Tensai's(Possibly other colonial's) fleet to force the Core to negotiate. Becomes an early victory for PACT forces, partly because of the deployment of Combat Frames among colonial (Tensai,Oceania, Esperancan, Corregidoran?) forces in earlier years prevents PACAM leaders from underestimating ZOCU aerospace. --[[user:sixmarks\|Five]]