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		<title>MJ12 Commando: Created page with &quot;=Chargen= re: Arete: Arete is a terrible fucking stat, even worse than Essence. It costs an arm and a leg, raising it is mandatory for most character concepts, and you have to...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;=Chargen= re: Arete: Arete is a terrible fucking stat, even worse than Essence. It costs an arm and a leg, raising it is mandatory for most character concepts, and you have to...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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re: Arete: Arete is a terrible fucking stat, even worse than Essence. It costs an arm and a leg, raising it is mandatory for most character concepts, and you have to completely put your fun-spending on hold for MONTHS to boost it up. This is not an argument against certain chargen models, it&amp;#039;s an argument that Arete costing XP to raise (rather than being triggered by roleplaying or some other advancement trigger, like Dharma in KotE) is bad design.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MJ12 Commando</name></author>
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